So these people just close their eyes and shove their fingers in their ears while they’re in restaurants, huh? It’s crazy that people can have so little understanding of what goes into their experience at a restaurant.
So these people just close their eyes and shove their fingers in their ears while they’re in restaurants, huh? It’s crazy that people can have so little understanding of what goes into their experience at a restaurant.
by HandicapperGeneral
31 Comments
SlightDish31
But the waiter had to smile when the customer asked for their salmon well done, so maybe they do deserve all the tips?
fishbowl_of_teeth
look i’ve never been a big fan of FOH. they always have some drama or some other bullshit. but they 1. get paid shit and 2. deal with dumbasses all day every day. i have a certain respect for that fortitude.
i agree that tipping culture is stupid, but the folk on that sub are making it seem like its the servers fault. fucking idiots lmao
edit: i’m just throwing this in here. the fact that servers get the brunt of this arguement shows exactly why gratuity is needed for them. instead of acknowledging the shit business practices of restaraunts, they put the blame on someone who has practically no control over it. if that doesn’t sum up the front of house experience, then what does? tip your servers. bums
ohheyhowsitgoin
I like it when people complain about a 15 dollar chicken. It gives me an opportunity to explain restaurants to them. They don’t have to cook, and in fact, they can order anything offered, and it will be in front of them in less than 20 minutes. Restaurants have a variety of beverages not found in most homes l. You don’t even have to stand up, unless you need to go to a bathroom you never have to clean. No dishes to clean. Better ambiance than most people’s kitchen tables. The list goes on.
youenjoymyself
I had a server come to me every night to complain or brag about all the tips they received that night of service while I was closing up dish alone. Bitch, you’re complaining about only making $200 that night while I’m making a dollar over minimum wage with 100% more labor?
ataylorm
Tipping should go away. Here in Costa Rica there is no tipping. Everyone gets paid a salary, everyone gets PTO, everyone gets health insurance, everyone gets annual bonus equal to one month of pay. Tables still get waited on.
soberscotsman80
Maybe pay everyone a living wage
HandicapperGeneral
I didn’t post this to have the tipping argument, but to point you towards the comment section on the linked post. These people are lunatics who have no understanding of how a restaurant works.
SebDevlin
Make it look like the waiters/waitresses are greedy for wanting tips is a great way to divide the masses.
If restaurants paid all of us a living wage things would be different but you can thank corporate lobbying and restauranteers being cheap for keeping shit as fucked as it is.
Ex: i worked at dave and busters. Game tech made $16/hr because they considered it “competitive”
Their competitors were round 1 (minimum wage, no benefits, japanese work culture making it a nightmare) and another company, main event, who actually bought out dnb, after one of the duo died and the other retired. So sssentially themselves.
Kitchen started at 18 an hour. I had to have an absurd amount of training and i got paid less than the dishie. No disrespect to them but we brought in 80% of the revenue for the building and the bartender/waitresses left with so much money it dwarfed the entire week’s pay.
Long story short fuck dave and busters/main event. Cant even unionize because they would legitimately just shut down the store. They did it in Louisiana and theyd do it anywhere else.
RespectTheTree
No taxes on tips? Cool, we’re going back to 12% for good service 👍
Nothing2Special
Lol the comment section hurt me
Houdinii1984
If that dude on the right is the owner of the restaurant, then yeah, it’s like that, demanding everyone else pay the server’s living wage…
Lycaeides13
Makes me glad I work in a places that shares tips with boh. (I’m front counter. It’s not a standard restaurant)
Down_To_My_Last_Fuck
Fishermen make a living wage. Truck Drivers make a living wage. It would be great if cooks could make a living wage.
Kirahei
The guest’s world ends at their table,
they have no understanding of what goes into making their food; from prepping the night before and then the day of, to the servers orchestrating multiple tasks across multiple tables.
People will order a well done steak and wonder what’s taking so long.
People will ask what’s in the kale salad, even though it’s written directly below the name, **order it**, and then be shocked that there’s so much kale in the kale salad.
People will walk into a seafood restaurant and ask why there is so much fish on the menu.
These people are doctors, lawyers, business owners…idk what happens but there is some kind of field generated at a restaurant that neutralizes people’s ability to think.
erichw23
one of the worst subs, they are delusional, you can tell its people who have never worked in service or if they did it was at mcds as a teenager. they just have no idea, its wild.
omarskullbaby
The same 12 assholes come through the back door every day. I got no clue who’s coming through the front door.
akornex
It’s not the customers responsibility to pay the wages. Good service and good food is our job and it’s the employer’s responsibility to pay a fair and predictable wage.
GimmeQueso
At my current spot I work FOH & BOH. I literally dread my FOH shifts. Without tips no one could pay me enough to do that job. My BOH shifts are hard but they’re preferable to the absolutely stupidity and rudeness I have to deal with up front.
Having been cross trained for so long I’m always annoyed by these types of posts. BOH not getting paid enough shouldn’t detract from servers being paid well. They’re two separate issues. Pay people more for the job but don’t act like servers are the issue when it’s cheap owners and cheap customers.
Pleroo
Raise prices in restaurants and pay a living wage.
MrBenSampson
The fisherman makes more money if he catches more fish.
If tipping went away, servers would make the same money on a busy, stressful Saturday as they would on a slow Monday. If a server makes $600 in tips during a 5 hour dinner service, that is $120 per hour. If tipping goes away, I doubt that restaurants would pay that hourly rate to make up for the servers’ loss of income.
I’m a cook, and the kitchen gets a cut of the tips in my country. My employer pays me $24 per hour, and the busier the service, the more money I get in my pocket from tips.
If you’re not willing to leave a tip, then cook for yourself. If you don’t come in, then my day will be easier, and I will make the same amount of money.
Nevermind2010
Tipping just needs to end point blank. It’s ridiculous that some states in the US basically make up someone’s wages in tips and pay them $3 an hour to put up with shitty people. Raise your prices and put everyone either on salary or give some competitive wages and be done with it.
Northstarsuperstar
Equally Shared tips for everyone on shift!
CanadianTrollToll
Honestly…. everyone who wants to abolish tipping just breaks down the simplest task of a server.
– Bringing dishes to a table
Yet that is one minor task in the equation.
Are servers overpaid with tips? Yah sure – at some places they make an absolute fuckton.
I_can_pun_anything
Who tips the fisherman or boat pilot?
Actual-Operation3510
I’d be more sympathetic if more of that tip money actually went to BOH where it belongs. Kitchen does much more and gets much less.
lucashoal
“I don’t tip” doesn’t solve the problem of the system existing as it does, it’s just being an asshole.
CRYOGENCFOX2
That subreddit is so cancer. It’s all or nothing with these ppl, god forbid there’s any nuance to a topic on reddit 🤣
SeaOfBullshit
Commercial fisherman salary: $64kyr
Commercial ship captain salary: $85kyr
Commercial truck driver salary: $79kyr
Server salary: $4430.40yr
IF we get 40 hours, which we don’t. We also don’t get health insurance, sick days, or ANY other benefit that these other jobs have. But we’re expected to be experts on every sourcing and preparation of every ingredient in house right?
That’s the end of the argument. Next.
talldean
Get rid of the “tipped wage” and this isn’t a problem, as this is *only* a problem in the US…
bigcaulkcharisma
I mean, tipping as a practice is kinda bullshit. I shouldn’t have to subsidize your workers paycheque because you don’t pay them enough. Tbs, I think ending tipping would basically kill the North American restaurant industry. Servers in most places make a middle class living doing their jobs. 0 percent chance that’d be the case if the owners had to pay them out of pocket. Not sure it’d even be feasible financially for most restaurants. It’s just something there’s no real pressure to actually do something about. The owners don’t want it, the servers don’t want it.
Adhdpenguin813
100% depends on the restaurant. I’m in the industry and refuse to tip cashiers that get paid full wage. Unless they e made an amazing effort to help or explain everything
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But the waiter had to smile when the customer asked for their salmon well done, so maybe they do deserve all the tips?
look i’ve never been a big fan of FOH. they always have some drama or some other bullshit. but they 1. get paid shit and 2. deal with dumbasses all day every day. i have a certain respect for that fortitude.
i agree that tipping culture is stupid, but the folk on that sub are making it seem like its the servers fault. fucking idiots lmao
edit: i’m just throwing this in here. the fact that servers get the brunt of this arguement shows exactly why gratuity is needed for them. instead of acknowledging the shit business practices of restaraunts, they put the blame on someone who has practically no control over it. if that doesn’t sum up the front of house experience, then what does? tip your servers. bums
I like it when people complain about a 15 dollar chicken. It gives me an opportunity to explain restaurants to them. They don’t have to cook, and in fact, they can order anything offered, and it will be in front of them in less than 20 minutes. Restaurants have a variety of beverages not found in most homes l. You don’t even have to stand up, unless you need to go to a bathroom you never have to clean. No dishes to clean. Better ambiance than most people’s kitchen tables. The list goes on.
I had a server come to me every night to complain or brag about all the tips they received that night of service while I was closing up dish alone. Bitch, you’re complaining about only making $200 that night while I’m making a dollar over minimum wage with 100% more labor?
Tipping should go away. Here in Costa Rica there is no tipping. Everyone gets paid a salary, everyone gets PTO, everyone gets health insurance, everyone gets annual bonus equal to one month of pay. Tables still get waited on.
Maybe pay everyone a living wage
I didn’t post this to have the tipping argument, but to point you towards the comment section on the linked post. These people are lunatics who have no understanding of how a restaurant works.
Make it look like the waiters/waitresses are greedy for wanting tips is a great way to divide the masses.
If restaurants paid all of us a living wage things would be different but you can thank corporate lobbying and restauranteers being cheap for keeping shit as fucked as it is.
Ex: i worked at dave and busters. Game tech made $16/hr because they considered it “competitive”
Their competitors were round 1 (minimum wage, no benefits, japanese work culture making it a nightmare) and another company, main event, who actually bought out dnb, after one of the duo died and the other retired. So sssentially themselves.
Kitchen started at 18 an hour. I had to have an absurd amount of training and i got paid less than the dishie. No disrespect to them but we brought in 80% of the revenue for the building and the bartender/waitresses left with so much money it dwarfed the entire week’s pay.
Long story short fuck dave and busters/main event. Cant even unionize because they would legitimately just shut down the store. They did it in Louisiana and theyd do it anywhere else.
No taxes on tips? Cool, we’re going back to 12% for good service 👍
Lol the comment section hurt me
If that dude on the right is the owner of the restaurant, then yeah, it’s like that, demanding everyone else pay the server’s living wage…
Makes me glad I work in a places that shares tips with boh. (I’m front counter. It’s not a standard restaurant)
Fishermen make a living wage. Truck Drivers make a living wage. It would be great if cooks could make a living wage.
The guest’s world ends at their table,
they have no understanding of what goes into making their food; from prepping the night before and then the day of, to the servers orchestrating multiple tasks across multiple tables.
People will order a well done steak and wonder what’s taking so long.
People will ask what’s in the kale salad, even though it’s written directly below the name, **order it**, and then be shocked that there’s so much kale in the kale salad.
People will walk into a seafood restaurant and ask why there is so much fish on the menu.
These people are doctors, lawyers, business owners…idk what happens but there is some kind of field generated at a restaurant that neutralizes people’s ability to think.
one of the worst subs, they are delusional, you can tell its people who have never worked in service or if they did it was at mcds as a teenager. they just have no idea, its wild.
The same 12 assholes come through the back door every day. I got no clue who’s coming through the front door.
It’s not the customers responsibility to pay the wages. Good service and good food is our job and it’s the employer’s responsibility to pay a fair and predictable wage.
At my current spot I work FOH & BOH. I literally dread my FOH shifts. Without tips no one could pay me enough to do that job. My BOH shifts are hard but they’re preferable to the absolutely stupidity and rudeness I have to deal with up front.
Having been cross trained for so long I’m always annoyed by these types of posts. BOH not getting paid enough shouldn’t detract from servers being paid well. They’re two separate issues. Pay people more for the job but don’t act like servers are the issue when it’s cheap owners and cheap customers.
Raise prices in restaurants and pay a living wage.
The fisherman makes more money if he catches more fish.
If tipping went away, servers would make the same money on a busy, stressful Saturday as they would on a slow Monday. If a server makes $600 in tips during a 5 hour dinner service, that is $120 per hour. If tipping goes away, I doubt that restaurants would pay that hourly rate to make up for the servers’ loss of income.
I’m a cook, and the kitchen gets a cut of the tips in my country. My employer pays me $24 per hour, and the busier the service, the more money I get in my pocket from tips.
If you’re not willing to leave a tip, then cook for yourself. If you don’t come in, then my day will be easier, and I will make the same amount of money.
Tipping just needs to end point blank. It’s ridiculous that some states in the US basically make up someone’s wages in tips and pay them $3 an hour to put up with shitty people. Raise your prices and put everyone either on salary or give some competitive wages and be done with it.
Equally Shared tips for everyone on shift!
Honestly…. everyone who wants to abolish tipping just breaks down the simplest task of a server.
– Bringing dishes to a table
Yet that is one minor task in the equation.
Are servers overpaid with tips? Yah sure – at some places they make an absolute fuckton.
Who tips the fisherman or boat pilot?
I’d be more sympathetic if more of that tip money actually went to BOH where it belongs. Kitchen does much more and gets much less.
“I don’t tip” doesn’t solve the problem of the system existing as it does, it’s just being an asshole.
That subreddit is so cancer. It’s all or nothing with these ppl, god forbid there’s any nuance to a topic on reddit 🤣
Commercial fisherman salary: $64kyr
Commercial ship captain salary: $85kyr
Commercial truck driver salary: $79kyr
Server salary: $4430.40yr
IF we get 40 hours, which we don’t. We also don’t get health insurance, sick days, or ANY other benefit that these other jobs have. But we’re expected to be experts on every sourcing and preparation of every ingredient in house right?
That’s the end of the argument. Next.
Get rid of the “tipped wage” and this isn’t a problem, as this is *only* a problem in the US…
I mean, tipping as a practice is kinda bullshit. I shouldn’t have to subsidize your workers paycheque because you don’t pay them enough. Tbs, I think ending tipping would basically kill the North American restaurant industry. Servers in most places make a middle class living doing their jobs. 0 percent chance that’d be the case if the owners had to pay them out of pocket. Not sure it’d even be feasible financially for most restaurants. It’s just something there’s no real pressure to actually do something about. The owners don’t want it, the servers don’t want it.
100% depends on the restaurant. I’m in the industry and refuse to tip cashiers that get paid full wage. Unless they e made an amazing effort to help or explain everything