Disodium guanylate, Disodium inosinate, and Natural flavor have kept me from buying this, but it looks bomb.
by nicemisterguy
37 Comments
Signal_Design_1067
The “no meat contained” would probably be good enough for me.
mechanigoat
It’s Japanese, so “natural flavor” probably means dried fish. 😅
tofu_schmo
The only correct answer is “it’s impossible to know with any certainty.” Looking online it sounds like disodium guanylate is typically, but not always, vegan, disodium inosinate is typically, but not always, not vegan, and natural flavor is always ambiguous.
It looks interesting for sure 🙂
YarnPartyy
I checked out the ingredients online, and it looks good to me. I saw a forum where other people were saying that a lot of their products are accidentally vegan and apparently it’s very good!
Public_Utility_Salt
I feel like in my country you have to at least refer to some code if you talk about natural and artificial flavorings. That code then reveals what they are really.
Other than that, it’s just googling what disodium guanylate and inosinate is.
shoegazer89
two potential concerns for vegans:
1. Natural flavor — this can sometimes include animal-derived ingredients, though it’s not always the case.
2. Disodium guanylate + disodium inosinate — these flavour enhancers are sometimes derived from fish but can also be made from plant sources. Since no fish extract is listed, it may be plant-based, but it’s hard to know for sure without confirmation from the manufacturer.
Sweaty_Bench_194
None of the ingredients look like they’re animal-derived… Unless there’s something kind of animal ingredient among the natural flavours.
lipsoffaith
That’s not healthful at all. Make your own stew with broth and veggies
‘Natural’ flavors are always a mystery on labels. For years, it was most likely to hide yeast extract, but they aren’t shy about that.
The E627/E631 are very expensive ingredients, so used in minute quantities in most processed foods. There aren’t any meat extractives that would have notable impact on flavor at even smaller quantities. The artificial flavorings could cover some pure synthetic flavor compounds that would restore some taste of fresh cabbage or onion. But who really knows with the ‘natural’ flavors, without getting an answer from the co.
Unlikely_Ganache_590
I think it’s ok but I love Japan so I’m biased I used to have this before I was vegan and assumed it was milk based or something but after reading the ingredients again I’m considering adding this to the repertoire again…”the milk or vegetable milk”(can’t see the image as I type this on my phone) makes me think even more likely it’s possible that it’s vegan the curry of this or a similar brand is.. but this looks amazing with a TVP like might be a cool alternative to sausage gravy
nonsansdroict
This looks tasty af. Gimme gimme!
AdSenior1319
Its fine……
sciototrails
26% salt I hope you don’t have high blood pressure or mind retaining water.
KingCarrotRL
I’d personally pass on it because of the palm oil.
HauntedSoda
I would eat it.
Think_Leadership_91
Read the label!
Edit: guys- why the downvotes- the label says it’s vegan
Inky_Madness
Everything checks out as either vegan or most likely vegan, so try it out!
Korimuzel
Seems vegan to me. I prefer the curry chunks, never tried the stew ones
KittyD13
Palm oil is not vegan
UnintentionalGrandma
I like to get the Japanese curry one like that and use it to make a creamy vegan curry soup with udon. It doesn’t seem like it’s not vegan though
dus-vla
Gemini says it’s not
VeganSchmeatBall
“Natural flavor” can really be anything, even milk in small enough amounts. I wouldn’t trust it but I know many that would.
The source of that palm oil would probably be the most non-vegan confirmed part. The palm oil industry is highly destructive and I avoid palm oil (unless someone hands me an Oreo 😬)
IndiaCee
I would say it’s probably fine
Weavercat
Not vegan but vegetarian. Commercial disodium inosinate may either be obtained from bacterial fermentation of sugars or prepared from animal products.
Shehulks1
Get an AI program to translate the ingredients.
Buta_no_Ousama
Some types of fish are not listed as allergens! Be careful
JeahbyJobe
Ask Chat GTP
rokmonster1
The bomb is what will end up in the toilet after someone eats that.
Complete_Molasses836
Natural flavor and palm oil are red flags to me!
MatchaDoAboutNothing
The AI says vegan. And the manufacturers website says no dairy and no meat derived ingredients.
Daphne-odora
What ingredient makes it creamy? I’m usually skeptical of creamy anything but maybe it’s not dairy?
mklinger23
I’m not sure for Japanese stuff, but in chinese-speaking countries vegetarian and vegan are usually synonyms. So if you see an item labeled vegetarian, you’re probably good. I would assume “no meat” basically means vegetarian and therefore vegan. The ingredients look okay. Id eat it. Plus, they *should* say “contains fish/shellfish” or something of the natural flavors contain fish. So I think it’s good.
Mindysveganlife
It’s kind of hard to tell I mean it looks like it’s vegan but depending on the spices because let’s say barbecue chips the barbecue spice is not vegan I don’t know why they don’t have on their vegan or vegetarian if that’s what it is. Just by reading the ingredients and what it doesn’t have seems like it is.
Alone-Recover692
Yes
zorabel
“natural flavor” could technically be non-vegan but I would first be put off by the palm oil
37 Comments
The “no meat contained” would probably be good enough for me.
It’s Japanese, so “natural flavor” probably means dried fish. 😅
The only correct answer is “it’s impossible to know with any certainty.” Looking online it sounds like disodium guanylate is typically, but not always, vegan, disodium inosinate is typically, but not always, not vegan, and natural flavor is always ambiguous.
It looks interesting for sure 🙂
I checked out the ingredients online, and it looks good to me. I saw a forum where other people were saying that a lot of their products are accidentally vegan and apparently it’s very good!
I feel like in my country you have to at least refer to some code if you talk about natural and artificial flavorings. That code then reveals what they are really.
Other than that, it’s just googling what disodium guanylate and inosinate is.
two potential concerns for vegans:
1. Natural flavor — this can sometimes include animal-derived ingredients, though it’s not always the case.
2. Disodium guanylate + disodium inosinate — these flavour enhancers are sometimes derived from fish but can also be made from plant sources. Since no fish extract is listed, it may be plant-based, but it’s hard to know for sure without confirmation from the manufacturer.
None of the ingredients look like they’re animal-derived… Unless there’s something kind of animal ingredient among the natural flavours.
That’s not healthful at all. Make your own stew with broth and veggies
The word crèmey gives me doubts.
Umami additives [disodium guanylate (E627)](https://foodadditives.net/flavor-enhancer/disodium-guanylate/) and [disodium inosinate (E631)](https://foodadditives.net/flavor-enhancer/disodium-inosinate/) are made from microbial/yeast fermentation, so are not of concern.
‘Natural’ flavors are always a mystery on labels. For years, it was most likely to hide yeast extract, but they aren’t shy about that.
The E627/E631 are very expensive ingredients, so used in minute quantities in most processed foods. There aren’t any meat extractives that would have notable impact on flavor at even smaller quantities. The artificial flavorings could cover some pure synthetic flavor compounds that would restore some taste of fresh cabbage or onion. But who really knows with the ‘natural’ flavors, without getting an answer from the co.
I think it’s ok but I love Japan so I’m biased I used to have this before I was vegan and assumed it was milk based or something but after reading the ingredients again I’m considering adding this to the repertoire again…”the milk or vegetable milk”(can’t see the image as I type this on my phone) makes me think even more likely it’s possible that it’s vegan the curry of this or a similar brand is.. but this looks amazing with a TVP like might be a cool alternative to sausage gravy
This looks tasty af. Gimme gimme!
Its fine……
26% salt I hope you don’t have high blood pressure or mind retaining water.
I’d personally pass on it because of the palm oil.
I would eat it.
Read the label!
Edit: guys- why the downvotes- the label says it’s vegan
Everything checks out as either vegan or most likely vegan, so try it out!
Seems vegan to me. I prefer the curry chunks, never tried the stew ones
Palm oil is not vegan
I like to get the Japanese curry one like that and use it to make a creamy vegan curry soup with udon. It doesn’t seem like it’s not vegan though
Gemini says it’s not
“Natural flavor” can really be anything, even milk in small enough amounts. I wouldn’t trust it but I know many that would.
The source of that palm oil would probably be the most non-vegan confirmed part. The palm oil industry is highly destructive and I avoid palm oil (unless someone hands me an Oreo 😬)
I would say it’s probably fine
Not vegan but vegetarian. Commercial disodium inosinate may either be obtained from bacterial fermentation of sugars or prepared from animal products.
Get an AI program to translate the ingredients.
Some types of fish are not listed as allergens! Be careful
Ask Chat GTP
The bomb is what will end up in the toilet after someone eats that.
Natural flavor and palm oil are red flags to me!
The AI says vegan. And the manufacturers website says no dairy and no meat derived ingredients.
What ingredient makes it creamy? I’m usually skeptical of creamy anything but maybe it’s not dairy?
I’m not sure for Japanese stuff, but in chinese-speaking countries vegetarian and vegan are usually synonyms. So if you see an item labeled vegetarian, you’re probably good. I would assume “no meat” basically means vegetarian and therefore vegan. The ingredients look okay. Id eat it. Plus, they *should* say “contains fish/shellfish” or something of the natural flavors contain fish. So I think it’s good.
It’s kind of hard to tell I mean it looks like it’s vegan but depending on the spices because let’s say barbecue chips the barbecue spice is not vegan I don’t know why they don’t have on their vegan or vegetarian if that’s what it is. Just by reading the ingredients and what it doesn’t have seems like it is.
Yes
“natural flavor” could technically be non-vegan but I would first be put off by the palm oil
Idk but it looks delicious