Masa has held 3 Michelin stars since 2009. Pretty big shakeup in the fine dining world.
by OptimusPrime23
18 Comments
vagrantwastrel
Honestly it doesn’t surprise me. The appetizers are truly incredible, but the nigiri was just as good as Yoshino, Shion, etc. Which is to say very very good, but it makes no sense that those are 1 and Masa is 3. And I know why sushi is expensive, but fuck off with that pricing
mbnyc1118
Price got insane idk maybe even the Michelin reviewers are concerned
MurrayPloppins
The absolute chasm between Masa’s price and quality sort of made this inevitable. Very good sushi, but for what they charge it had better be extraordinary and it wasn’t.
SuppleDude
The whole Michelin system is toxic.
just_corrayze
Masa is a messaaa.
djlamar7
Well I guess now I can say I’ve been to all the NYC 3 stars.
Pherllerp
I haven’t been to Mass yet but I’m surprised that Per Se has held on to their third star.
RoosterClan2
Hate that the writer of the article used “upmost quality” instead of the correct “utmost quality”
Claptomaniac
Thank FUCK
funderwood7
Anyone who’s continued to frequent this place since Covid is basically someone who doesn’t really understand edomae sushi in its modern phase… you know the type that screams “so fresh!” at an omakase
I mean it’s ridiculous enough that you’re not guaranteed to be served by masa himself even though this is very much the norm at every reputable high end sushi restaurant in and out of Japan. Masa is also from an older generation of frankly less refined sushi chefs… jiro was the top dog of that pre 2000 generation of chefs, but the world of edomae sushi has dramatically evolved since then, still primarily in ginza/Tokyo, with the growth of kanesaka, yoshitake, sugita, namba, sho, and other schools of chefs/apprentices (jiro school too). Where masa trained (ginza sushi ko) might’ve been relevant in the scene back then but now it’s just a nothing special old school neighborhood omakase restaurant.
Since the late 2010s , ny has seen many chefs from these modern schools come over with extended training (noda, shion, and now even mekumi). Frankly my opinion is that if masa was running an omakase restaurant in Tokyo, it would be a sub 3.5 tabelog rating with easy same week reservation and would be priced at less than a quarter of the nyc price. It’s simply no longer competitive even abroad and esp taking into account the prices they charge
JuanJeanJohn
Fingers crossed Sushi Sho gets bumped up to three
VisitPier26
Maybe he should have been there more often.
TheSushiLegendDotCom
FYI – the new additions get announced November 18th. There may – and probably will – be new restaurants (and maybe new sushiya…………) given three stars.
(please don’t treat michelin as gospel)
hertslee
They should lose 2 stars out of 3. The chefs working there are more of training purposes. Shame on Masa.
panzerxiii
Michelin is so full of shit.
I ate at Paul Bocuse this year. The fact that they lowered their rating is absurd.
People need to stop following their political bullshit.
Sloniata
How in the world 11 Madison Park remains 3 starts is a big mystery to me
xeothought
oh it’ll be two star pricing now? rofl
NoRun7963
The core issue at Masa is (and has been for a while…), one of management. They’ve been through multiple operations managers in just as many years. The work environment leans towards the toxic side. And the great man himself is largely disengaged from the business.
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Honestly it doesn’t surprise me. The appetizers are truly incredible, but the nigiri was just as good as Yoshino, Shion, etc. Which is to say very very good, but it makes no sense that those are 1 and Masa is 3. And I know why sushi is expensive, but fuck off with that pricing
Price got insane idk maybe even the Michelin reviewers are concerned
The absolute chasm between Masa’s price and quality sort of made this inevitable. Very good sushi, but for what they charge it had better be extraordinary and it wasn’t.
The whole Michelin system is toxic.
Masa is a messaaa.
Well I guess now I can say I’ve been to all the NYC 3 stars.
I haven’t been to Mass yet but I’m surprised that Per Se has held on to their third star.
Hate that the writer of the article used “upmost quality” instead of the correct “utmost quality”
Thank FUCK
Anyone who’s continued to frequent this place since Covid is basically someone who doesn’t really understand edomae sushi in its modern phase… you know the type that screams “so fresh!” at an omakase
I mean it’s ridiculous enough that you’re not guaranteed to be served by masa himself even though this is very much the norm at every reputable high end sushi restaurant in and out of Japan. Masa is also from an older generation of frankly less refined sushi chefs… jiro was the top dog of that pre 2000 generation of chefs, but the world of edomae sushi has dramatically evolved since then, still primarily in ginza/Tokyo, with the growth of kanesaka, yoshitake, sugita, namba, sho, and other schools of chefs/apprentices (jiro school too). Where masa trained (ginza sushi ko) might’ve been relevant in the scene back then but now it’s just a nothing special old school neighborhood omakase restaurant.
Since the late 2010s , ny has seen many chefs from these modern schools come over with extended training (noda, shion, and now even mekumi). Frankly my opinion is that if masa was running an omakase restaurant in Tokyo, it would be a sub 3.5 tabelog rating with easy same week reservation and would be priced at less than a quarter of the nyc price. It’s simply no longer competitive even abroad and esp taking into account the prices they charge
Fingers crossed Sushi Sho gets bumped up to three
Maybe he should have been there more often.
FYI – the new additions get announced November 18th. There may – and probably will – be new restaurants (and maybe new sushiya…………) given three stars.
(please don’t treat michelin as gospel)
They should lose 2 stars out of 3. The chefs working there are more of training purposes. Shame on Masa.
Michelin is so full of shit.
I ate at Paul Bocuse this year. The fact that they lowered their rating is absurd.
People need to stop following their political bullshit.
How in the world 11 Madison Park remains 3 starts is a big mystery to me
oh it’ll be two star pricing now? rofl
The core issue at Masa is (and has been for a while…), one of management. They’ve been through multiple operations managers in just as many years. The work environment leans towards the toxic side. And the great man himself is largely disengaged from the business.