Hello, I know this isn't necessarily for an ice cream, but you all seem incredibly knowledgeable about gums. Specifically the ones we use for our toppings. So I thought id post here.

I am making two distinct cream based liquids. (For use as a coffee topper). I mix them in a bowl with an electric mixer, then put it in a food processor with a whipping blade to finish it.

Cream 1 – powdered sugar (130g), 2% milk (600g), cream (500 g) + .5% (5g) by weight xanthan gum.

Cream 2 – 300g raw unfiltered honey (nates brand), 675g 2% milk, 675g cream, 5g xanthan gum.

I decided to switch from Xanthan gum to tara gum because the X gum can be slimy and unpleasant at times. Too thick and viscous. I want something more soft and airy, not slimy and viscous. But stable.

The tara gum works splendid in Cream 1. It is soft, airy, fluffy, with a nice body and not slimy.

But in cream 2 it is very runny, does not have a soft airy body like cream 1. And more importantly, creates this very strange separation after roughly 12-20 hours. See picture.

Anyone know what is causing this? This separation does NOT happen with X gum, only with Tara gum in cream 2.

by helpfulFrenchBulldog

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  2. j_hermann

    Try 1.25g xanthan and 4g guar instead. There are synergies.

    How do you mix in the gums with #2? In #1 you can disperse them properly using the sugar for bulking, but #2?

    Also try instant starch (clear jel, E1442).

  3. YourUncleBenny69

    You probably need another emulsifier. Try using some sunflower lecithin (or an egg yolk or two) with the Tara gum and see if that helps