I found this video on YouTube recently that explains the history of tipping, and it’s incredibly enlightening.
I think others might find it enlightening as well. [Why Tipping Is So Out Of Control in the U.S.](https://youtu.be/q_fMkXHYh6c)
I’m done with tipping people who aren’t restaurant servers/bartenders, delivery drivers, baristas, ice cream scoopers, or somehow hooking me up or otherwise doing something that requires promptness.
I’m so sick of people who are doing nothing more than the mere basic requirements of their job (and getting paid in full for it) who casually flip the screen around at the end of a transaction and expect me to tip them some crazy amount, such as 20%, 25%, or 30%.
These people are ruining tipping culture for the people who actually are working for tips.
Thoughts? Who should be getting tipped and who shouldn’t be?
by GuyFromESPN8TheOcho
30 Comments
Waiters and waitresses. No one else.
I absolutely do not tip anyone other than servers and delivery people. One of the worst examples of assumed tipping I encountered recently was at the Sprinkles store at The Grove. They had order iPads out front for self ordering. When you check out, the option to tip shows up. The only interaction with a person was the one who slid my box to me from behind the counter. WTF would I be tipping for???
BTW: if you tip servers or deliver people, tip them **in cash**.
It drives me nuts when the takeout/ pickup places default to 25% tip as the first option. Even more reason to decline
Isn’t a lower tipped minimum wage for service industries the entire reason that tipping in the US is a thing? I just double checked and there is no longer separate minimum wage in CA.. why is there still an expectation to tip 20%+??
Socal has a wonderful food scene, but the tipping…
I wish we would just pay living wage to everyone. Raise prices, get rid of tipping.
I used to be a bartender so I generally tip well (I think everyone should work for tips at least once in their life). What drives me nuts is when I tip well (in advance – take out, etc.) and still get poor service.
My thai massage place has their tip screen set to 35, 40, 45% 😩
I was presented with a tipping option at a med spa for an IV infusion…
People downvoted the hell out of me when I asked what places specifically pay their staff more and have higher prices so I can tip zero. Still looking btw.
It’s not the responsibility of the consumer to make up for the wages these corporations/businesses are paying. And I’m an investor, too, fuck the shareholders! Two places I’m tipping only. The rest, well, shit, I’m sorry.
1. Food Delivery based on time (LA Traffic), distance, and efficiency.
2. Places where I dine.
Every other place. No more. I’m tired of it. I’m not sure why I even tolerated it for this long. Fuckers need to start adjusting their price, and I’ll decide as a consumer if I want to dine at your establishment. Cheap fucks!
I been seeing people justify tipping takeout by saying “well someone had to package my food”, which to me is a weird justification. If the food isn’t packaged, then there’s no transaction. Do people tip factory workers for packaging electronics that are sold at Best Buy? It’s really getting out of hand and now it seems like everyone wants tips for the minimum amount of work.
I’m also noticing a trend in some restaurants, especially in SGV, where they hand you a QR code and you order the food and pay in the app. So the only service is them bringing you the food. Service is almost non existent, do we still tip the usual amount for that?
It used to be based on actual service, now it’s just basically a guilt trip donation fee. It’s common practice nowadays to ask for a tip before you even get what you’re buying.
Just don’t tip them then? Idk how else to combat the problem.
I got asked to tip at a clothing store the other day. And all they did was scan the barcode of the shirt I took off the rack and then gave me the total cost.
Why is this such a big deal lately? Just press no tip and move on with your life
I never understand the complaint about “having” to tip for these types of things. Just because they give you the option to tip doesn’t obligate you to tip. I’ve never expected a tip when I worked those types of jobs.
You’re assuming they are expecting it instead of just doing their job and getting mad about it.
We shouldn’t have tipping in general, people should be paid living wages, but your personal guilt for pressing “no tip” is so low on the list of issues with tipping.
While we are at it, check those tip amounts! More and more when the tip percentages are displayed for you it’s also including the sales tax. This of course increases the tip amounts. NEVER TIP ON SALES TAX.
At this point I am about to just stop tipping at any place that includes sales tax when determining the amount to tip.
Since I am already bitching about tips, l also HATE when the waiter hands you the portable payment device then hovers over you while you enter your card info and tip info. I feel like I’m being shamed into giving a bigger tip when the waiter is standing there and watching.
Again, maybe it’s time to stop tipping altogether and let the business owner pay his employees a decent wage instead of putting it on the consumer to make up the difference.
I just came back from London and it was the best experience. There’s no extra tax or tip so you just tap your phone or card to pay and you’re done. Goddamn it felt good.
Am I the only one that sees the tip screen on POS systems anywhere other than a restaurant and just hits “skip” (or whatever equivalent there is) and then goes on with my life.
Do people see that and actually think, “oh this establishment that is in no way a tipping kind of place is forcing me to tip and/or expects tips?”
Feelings on tipping in restaurants aside, why in God’s name are people so upset about these POS systems showing a completely arbitrary screen ?
And how on earth did anyone think this wasn’t going to be standard once modern POS (aka anyone can get a cheap touch screen/wi fi system now) systems become a thing.
Unlike other parts of the country, everyone in LA makes at least minimum wage hourly, if not well above that. So i never feel bad about not tipping.
The person who invented the flippy mount for an ipad is probably responsible for putting more wealth into the pockets of the proletariat than anyone or anything since the invention of workers’ unions.
“Oh…I need to tip for you to put 2 donuts in a bag for me? And you’re going to stare at me deadeyed while I decide what to do? And the tip options START at 20% now?” Cool. Coolcoolcoolcool.
Pay and tip with cash whenever possible, place orders over the phone or in person and stop using/supporting apps that ask for tips before service.
When you take an Uber ride, you aren’t even asked to tip until afterwards. Why should all these online pickup orders, UberEats/Doordash, etc be any different?
Ugh, I went to Petit Trois last week for LUNCH. The guy didn’t tell me there was already a $23 service fee on there. Tipped $30 on top of that. This kid got $53 for bringing me soup and some apps. I know, it’s no one’s fault but mine, but come on…
The thing that makes me mad is tip requests in fast-casual places where there’s no service beyond the interaction at the counter. I’ve felt guilted into tipping but then wondered what I tipped for when I have to get up to get my food, get up to get the utensils they forgot, get up for drink refills, and get up for to-go boxes and a bag. I feel stupid running around when I’ve paid 20% on top of my already expensive food. I don’t eat out nearly as often any more but I just pay cash now to avoid all this crap.
Funniest one I encountered recently was at Angels stadium. It was a self service snack area where I grabbed my drink and snacks, and all the cashier did was scan my items…
Default option was 25% tip, I tried my best not to laugh in his face
I personally think TIPS should be for full service type jobs such as waitering, Ubering, haircutting, etc. I also don’t think counter clerks who ring up a register deserve 20% or more I think that’s crazy since they’re not really doing anything, but their regular job. But I think this more liberal form of tipping started happening during the pandemic when people really we’re having a hard time and needed those tips, but I don’t feel cashiers at restaurants or bakeries should be entitled to 20% since they’re not preparing the food and they’re not waiting on you or bringing the food to your table. I work as a tour guide and take cruise ship passengers on LA day bus tours and I and my bus drivers rely on tips on addition to base pay yet people go on extravagant cruises and spend a lot of money for them and yet many are cheap and give zero tip at the end of the tour which I think is selfish and if they were in the reverse position they would not appreciate it and might also feel slighted.
It’s a shame because tipping has become a perverted way to handle the ebb and flow of business and employee compensation rather than what it was supposed to be.
In a better world, tip should be optional for those who provide exceptional service and wages should be fair that tips aren’t required. The ironic thing is that in many parts of Asia I get better service and you don’t tip at all.
I tip for service and delivery. I don’t tip for pickup orders unless it’s a very large order of items. I’m certainly not tipping for one Turkey sandwich. lol
Don’t forget to tip your landlords too people! https://twitter.com/joshuaphilll/status/1630321502045257732?s=46&t=8L8Od9iWqp0eY2cu0-44lQ
Also, coming soon to airlines 🤗: https://twitter.com/0xgaut/status/1647951095304470528?s=46&t=8L8Od9iWqp0eY2cu0-44lQ
I no longer eat out nor buy coffee!
Agreed, was out for coffee once at a place that is self-serve. I pay, they flip the screen for the tip. I’m thinking to myself “all you did was hand me an empty cup, I’m not tipping on that.”