It’s always treacherous attempting an iconic, regional specialty like Cincinnati-style chili, especially when you’ve never actually had the “real thing.” People are very protective of these types of dishes, and any variance from what they think the recipe should be is met with a visceral condemnation. On the other hand, the food Gods hate a coward, and so I made it anyway.
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hello this is chef john from food wishes dot comma with cincinnati style chili that’s where i do not let that spaghetti fool you this is definitely a type of chili at least according to my friends in cincinnati ok my friends in texas might disagree oh by the way i’m not sure exactly how authentic this is since i’ve never actually been to cincinnati or at least not physically alright spiritually i feel like i’ve been there a few times but regardless I thought this came out great and to get started we’re gonna need a couple pounds of ground beef in case you have a choice the finer the grind the better and what we’ll do is transfer that into a nice big soup pot and then add some tomato paste okay I’m gonna add an entire six ounce can and by the way I think I speak for all wooden spoon wielding Italian grandmothers when I say please rinse out that cam with a couple tablespoons of water and add that to the pot as well which I did once this was on the stove but I didn’t film it and then to that we will add some minced garlic as well as one large diced yellow onion at which point is time to add our spices so many spices starting with some good old-fashioned chili powder some ground cumin some cinnamon and of course some cayenne pepper we will also do a little touch of allspice as well as some ground clove some freshly ground black pepper which means we freshly grinded ourselves we will also do one bay leaf preferably from Turkey and definitely not from California and then we will finish up with a little bit of sugar as well as of course a good amount of salt and then as far as our wet ingredients go we’ll do some apple cider vinegar plus a few dashes of Worcestershire sauce followed by six cups of nice fresh cold water and that is going to be it so yes we do have a good amount of ingredients here but the good news is all we have to do here is throw them all in a pot although before we place this on the heat we are going to do one thing first what we’re gonna do is take a potato masher or even a large whisk if you want and we’re going to give this a good mashing / stirring so that we break all that meat up into small particles before this starts to cook all right that’s what’s gonna give us that fine-grained texture we’re after so we’ll go ahead and give that a very good mix at which point we’ll place our pot over medium-high heat and we will simply wait for all this to start to boil and while this is coming up to temperature it is not a bad idea to take our most experienced wooden spoon and give all this an occasional stir and while stirring at this point is mostly so we feel like we’re doing something useful it’s also to break up any larger pieces of meat that we might have missed with the masher which I don’t think I did but we’ll give it a check anyway and then here’s our game plan as soon as this does come up to a simmer we’ll reduce our heat to medium-low and simmer this stirring occasionally for about an hour to an hour and a half or until it looks feels and tastes exactly how we want it and of course while this simmers fats can rise to the top and if we want we could skim that off or we could do what they do in Cincinnati and not skim that off and simply stir it back into our chili which if you’re using grass-fed beef is probably not a bad idea but that’s going to be up to you I mean you guys are after all the icky woods of your shouldn’ts in shoulds and for the record I decided I shouldn’t and I stirred that fat right in since that will add richness and flavor and by the way this is what mine look like after simmering for 1 hour and I could have and probably should have stopped at this point but for whatever reason I decided I wanted mine a little thicker so I ended up cooking mine for about another half hour at which point it looked like this so at this point that was looking good to me which means we have to grab a spoon and give it a taste before we serve so I did and decided it was perfect and I went ahead and pulled out the bay leaf because it was right there and that’s it we can go ahead and grab a ladle and serve this up and right here you’re gonna get a great look at that thick texture I was going for very fairly dry and very pasty it’s sort of looking like a nice Bolognese speaking of which believe it or not Cincinnati style chili is served over spaghetti that’s how they do so we will go ahead and ladle that over some plain boiled spaghetti oh and pro tip here do not under cook that pasta okay we don’t want al dente here we’ve lined it fully cooked and very very tender for this and then if you finish this off with some diced onions and some grated orange cheddar like I’m going to you’d be enjoying what they call in Cincinnati a four-way because of the four components all right if you don’t do the onions and just do the cheese we would be having what they call a three-way and if we’re being honest this is probably the only way that one’s getting checked off our bucket list which is fine still counts but anyway whether you’re doing a three-way a four-way or a five-way which I believe is with beans and or oyster crackers I get confused on the five way but anyway the point is no matter which way you enjoy this we should not we must not we will not world a fork all right a Cincinnati chili is eaten by cutting the spaghetti with the fork and then scooping everything up like you’re eating a noodle casserole and yes I did try to troll that a little bit all right the muscle-memory takes over but the reason you want to cut in scoop and not twirl is because due to the texture of the meat if you twirl the pasta that’s all you’re gonna get in the bite mostly plain pasta but by cutting and Scooby you’re going to be able to get everything on the fork at once so basically in Cincinnati that’s how people can tell who the tourists are so do not be a twirler okay that’s like going to New York City and eating a slice of pizza with a fork and a knife it is just not done but anyway how you should eat this aside it really is very delicious and I think you’re gonna love it if you tend to like foods from the Middle East or the Mediterranean or Greek food or Indian food or if you like those spices and flavor profiles you’re gonna love this but if you don’t you won’t although you could still make this and just use your traditional chili spices but happily I really like those flavors so I very much enjoyed this although if I’m being very picky I thought this might have been a little too dry and that I reduced it maybe a little too much so in the name of science and art I decided to take the leftovers and add some more water and a little more tomato paste and another pinch of salt and I went ahead and thin this out it brought it back up to temperature and I tried another serving with this much saucer version so I went ahead and did everything exactly the same and again opted for the four-way and then dug in again concentrating on not twirling which is very very hard for an experienced spaghetti eater and of course not being able to sit in front of this makes it a little challenging as well but anyway I eventually managed to get a couple four fulls into my face and believe it or not it was pretty much the exact same experience I mean yes there were more juices at the bottom of the bowl which I guess is a good thing but the saucer version versus that thick pasty version really was not that much different although in case it matters the video I’ve seen of the real stuff looks a little more similar to this saucer second version Bob regardless of how thick or looser Cincinnati style chili is or whether you end up enjoying a three-way a four-way horrified way I really do hope you give this unusual but very delicious chili a try sinner so please follow the links below for the ingredient amounts a printable written recipe and much more info as usual and as always enjoy you you
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I've been watching you for a long time, John. I absolutely love your recipes and have made a bunch to great fanfare. But, how can you call this Cincinnati chili with a straight face? There's no chocolate, you need chocolate for it to be Cincy chili. I just made some nice Virginia chili the other day and it had all the same ingredients as this, it was NO Cincy chili I can tell you that. I've only ever been to Cincinnati once and eaten at Skyline Chili once also, but this thing you have made here is not what they serve, not even close.
The thing that baffles me is the numerous other comments from people on this video to the effect of "I'm from Cincinnati, lived there my whole life, and you knocked this out of the park". Really? Who are you? You have lived in Cincy your whole life and you think this recipe is representative of the chili legacy of that town?? Have you been living in a cave? Without chocolate, this doesn't deserve to be anywhere near Ohio.
As a Florida native I had this one, Skyline in Cincinnati and for me it is a pass. I will try your recipe for my husband who loves it. He can have his Skyline inspired version and I will make mine with the traditional southwest style I am used to, or a pot of white chicken chili. My husband suggested cooking the ground beef meat first since I told him it was truly more the texture issue than the taste to me.
Fascinating dish…
I’ve lived in Cincinnati all my life and this is not Cincinnati chili. For the closest recipe I’ve found check out the video for Skyline chili on Elite Recipe Source here on YouTube. It’s legit.
A terrible waste of good beef.
no chocolate in the chili? hrmmm
The one ingredient, left out here(?), that makes this already weird but great chili even weirder and greater is cocoa powder–about 2-3 tbsp for 2 lbs ground beef. Everything else would be the same. It does make a difference and it's really better.
I am an Ohio native and I don't think it is universal to pre-cut the spaghetti. You can twirl if you want, you'll just end up with a lot of wet chili to spoon up later. Maybe you enjoy some different textures in different bites. However you want to eat it is fine with us. It's a very small tribe, so we are pretty much always happy when our food is actually being enjoyed, since most food critics and visitors tend to look down on Cincinnati chili.
I don't think the method you eat your way is nearly as hard and fast as not eating pizza with a fork. Having lived in Brooklyn for a few years and eaten plenty of pies, I never saw anyone eat it that way. It's always pick up, fold, and bite. If your slice is really big you might bite the front off the edge of those tiny paper plates they give you, but then you fold after that.
There is healthy debate on how wet Cincinnati chili ought to be, so you can ask for it "juicy" or "dry" when you order a way at Skyline. In the latter case they will actually drain some of the liquid from the plate before serving. Dry looks more like your first creation, while juicy is even wetter than your second recipe. I prefer it in the middle, so I don't ask for either modification.
The 5-way is, as you guessed, served with beans. Some people don't like onions so they ask for a 4-way with beans instead of onions, and IIRC that isn't an upcharge.
The oyster crackers are a side dish with every order. In fact they set them at your table once you sit down. You can add them to chili but my family would traditionally pour a few drops of hot sauce on each one and eat them individually as an appetizer. 🙂
Nice job, I love this classic dish from sin sin city (that's what I call Cincinnati). You forgot the chocolate though.
Sorry to say a man but that's not real Cincinnati style chili. It's supposed to be a sauce that chili is just kind of sitting on top of spaghetti.
In my world, this was called Hot Dog Chili 🌭🌶🥣
Maybe break up the spaghetti before you cook it?🤔
You forgot the chocolate
I'm in a touring band and we play Ohio quite a bit. Even more than the shows, the thing I always get excited about is going to a Skyline Chili.
Fun fact! Despite the name, it's widely believed that the recipe was created by Greek migrants.
By the way guys, Fairly Dry and Very Pasty will be playing at Gabe's this weekend, no cover charge
John, looks soooooooo delicious. But I need sour cream and tomatoes 😊😊😊😊
Any Cinncinattians eat this with garlic bread? That's how I would do it.
Texas would like a word
Note to Australian fans: American chili powder is very different from Australian chili powder. Aussie stuff is straight up dried chili and VERY hot. Using 1/4 cup of Aussie chili powder will create a meat sauce so hot that maybe three people on the planet will be able to eat it. However, it is easy to mix an American style chili powder – just give it a google. Usually has paprika, onion powder, garlic powder, etc. and is much milder. Or you can buy "Mexican Chili Powder" (ironic) which will run you around $3 or so just for this recipe as you will use the whole jar.
As a native born Texan first let me say thank you Cincinnati for the Twin Sisters, artillery you gave us to win our independence. But having said that…….please stop. That's not chili.
A bay leaf from Turkey, not California cracked me up.
Aye when did Neil degrass tyson start a cooking show?
This has some of the components of Cincinnati Skyline Chili, but your recipe is definitely off. I suggest u order a can from their website and then u can taste and see if u tell whats in there ;). its a huge guarded secret. There is 2 ingredients that set it from other chili's. I can tell you that there is no onions cooked in their chili. The meat is not fine like that to the point of making a consistency of oatmeal. If you put your hamburger raw into the water and tomato paste and stir it well the meat will break up fine enough. No need for a potato masher..lol There is always plenty of juice, in fact people will ask for it juicy. 3-way is chili, spaghetti and cheese, 4-way is chili, spaghetti, cheese and onions and a 5 way is chili, spaghetti, cheese, onions and kidney beans. Then of course oyster crackers are always served on the side. This is not your Chili con carne or Texas variation of chili con carne. Thats a whole difference dish. Skyline Chili was developed by a few greek brothers in cincinnati but its not traditional greek or mexican dish. There are a couple chili parlors in cincinnati. There is also Empress chili and goldstar and blue ash chili to name a few, but none so good as skyline with a recipe that hasnt changed since the 1920s.
Chef John, that sauce, over basmati rice, with some pickled red onions and a coriander garnish… It shall be yummy. It shall also be attempted this weekend. Or…. Exactly what you've done, but in a large baked potato instead. Oh wow.
Chocolate!!!!
If you are supposed to cut up the spaghetti, then why do they even use long noodles in the first place?
Mine will eclipse yours, old man. I will make it so flavorful that Cincinnati will ask me for advice. I have so many spices, ya'll just don't know!
5 way is with black olives
5 way is with beans – Oyster crackers are not optional lol, also need sskyline hotsauce specifically.
If you could do a cincinnati style steak hoagie, this cincy boy living in florida would love to see what you come up with.
Made this yesterday- OMG. The hubs and I couldn’t believe how delicious it is. Actually argued over the leftovers. Pretty much stuck to the recipe except subbed 2 cups beef broth for 2 cups of the water, added 1 1/2 Tbsps cocoa powder and about half a cup of puréed tomatoes. We’ll be having this regularly!
Neither cinnamon nor chocolate belong in chili or spaghetti sauce recipes as far as I'm concerned. Keep it for dessert recipes.