Dr. Zoë and I discuss the myths surrounding vegetarian diets and the impact of dietary choices on health. We delve into the nutritional deficiencies in plant-based diets, the truth about the Mediterranean diet, and why fiber is not necessary for gut health. Make sure to listen to the full interview to learn more.
Dr. Zoë Harcombe, PhD, is a researcher and author specializing in public health and dietary nutrition. She holds degrees in mathematics and economics from Cambridge University and has authored several books on obesity, dietary myths, and nutrition, including “The Obesity Epidemic” and “Stop Counting Calories & Start Losing Weight”. Her work challenges mainstream dietary guidelines and advocates for a real-food, low-carbohydrate approach to health.
0:00 Intro
1:36 Zoë’s background and journey to nutrition research
3:43 How Zoë’s interest in diet began
10:18 Mental and physical sides of food cravings and addiction
16:47 Zoë’s transition from a plant-based diet back to eating meat
24:43 Flaws in Game Changers and plant-based diet myths
31:52 Breaking down Mediterranean diet myths and its real components
38:26 Environmental impact of plant-based versus meat-based diets
50:07 Role of dietary guidelines and corruption in nutrition policy
55:47 Addressing fiber concerns on low-carb diets
1:02:24 Tips for switching from plant-based to meat-based diet
1:07:33 Where to find Dr. Zoë Harcombe
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36 Comments
I take a little psyllium – about 4 grams. 👌
What a compelling interview! Zoe is always so well read, researched and eloquent. And of course believable. Thx Judy.
Great interview!
Great information
I love almost everything about Zoë. She is debunking the ridiculous plant-based narrative we've all been force fed since the 50s.
However, her view of the energy transition is narrow minded.
We do not know whether humans are warming the planet by keeping CO2 emissions high, but there's a fair chance that we are.
The point should be that renewable energy doesn't need to be unreliable – when done correctly, using appropriate spaces (not lush green fields) and combined with electrical storage, it can provide great wealth and prosperity.
Please look into these ideas in your Monday research newsletter Zoë!
Great interview Judy 👏
You can buy great quality meat in UK, but buying good local veggies is borderline impossible! And it doesn't make sense!
Judy, the sound is wonky. It gets real quiet then around min 47 it jumps back to normal
I do wonder about Gates buying land. Factory farms don't need soil, like all those hydroponic farms. I think he's taking land out so it cannot be used.
ZERO
Whole grains seem to be completely off the table in all the low carb spaces. I would love to see a discussion with someone like Sue Becker on the difference between bread and flours
you buy in the store and freshly milled wheat from wheat berries which have almost all of the vitamins you need.
There are more arguments for being vegetarian.
I was one for POLITICAL reasons, how the empires of the world use 3rd world countries to graze their cows to provide us with cheap burgers, while overcrowding rural populations into unlivable conditions.
Being vegan was the worst diet for me, ever!
LOVE her description of the Mediterranean diet
A highly intelligent lady who is on a mission to help thousands of people ❤please invite her back 👍👍
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Learn more about Dr. Harcomb's newsletter: https://www.zoeharcombe.com/category/newsletter/ Read more about Meat and climate change, seed oils and beyond meat: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/category/articles/page/11 (scroll down to row 3)
Bill Gates sells off plant-based foods: https://stockcircle.com/portfolio/bill-gates/bynd/transactions
In layman’s terms, “Don’t worry be happy.” 😊
Loved this interview and the valuable information provided. I really wanted to sign up for her newsletter, but is paid subscription only, cmon, not even the newsletter is free? No wonder that regular people can't make much progress and only affluent people are healthy. That is a disappointment.
Zoe Harcombe is amazeballs! Her Monday notes makes my Tuesday! 🥰
I love your "Broccoli" comment, (Not all that*) Totally agree, not keen on any of those in cabbage family.
Stupid fad diets 🤪🤣😂 meat or plant only diets
Eat a balanced diet 💯👍👍👍
This is great information, I love it.
Watched from start to end. Great info from Dr. Harcomb.
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Yes, one of the biggest lies is carbon dioxide is bad for the planet and causing harmful climate change.
Gates look like a grey skinned vegan.
I buy the McDonald's special two for four dollars burger deal, patties and cheese only with two pats of butter per patty. I'm the working poor. Mostly hamburger patties, butter boiled eggs and sardines.
Mild note. Dr Cho, I was just listening to another interview then you came on. I wasn't watching and I first heard a topic I was expecting like Lili Kane. Then I was like Bella. Took me a full minute to decipher you. Yes your voice is distinctive. However you have help spreading your message. Your guest is royalty. I've been listening to you both for years. I'd started listening to your podcast on audible more than on YouTube because I drive a lot. You consistently explain to expand my mind.
I watched a movie on impossible meat impersonation last night with Nina t. Well done.
The opposite has happened to me. I gave up meat, fish, eggs and dairy 7 years ago and my eyes have improved. I always had eye problems, with retinal surgeries. There is a campaign funded by meat industries to discourage veganism
This is a well formatted primer. I've been watching y'all for years.
Dr harcombe many of us drive hours each day. I listened to Dr Cho the carnivore cure. I listen to her the podcast on audible too. I listen to the presentations on YouTube. I'll look into the Kindle app reader. You have an outstanding voice for the American outlet. Understandable accent with a delightful timbre should you decide to record your books they'll sell. Truck drivers kinda have to go low carb because it gets unsustainable to rollercoaster blood sugar. Also having more predictable bowel movements and in my case fixing the prostate so I don't have urgency for urination
People like to be told that meat is good.
25 times more animal killed growing crops.
All you really need is donuts. The problem people run into is that they don't properly balance the different types. You need chocolate, powdered, sprinkles, plain, glazed, and jelly filled. If you concentrate on only one kind, you are sure to have a deficiency. If necessary, you can supplement with Doritos. And be sure to keep yourself hydrated with a large Mountain Dew or a Coke.
There’s another argument that most of the agricultural land used to grow food for animals that we eat.
Good Talk. Not all her points are correct, so be sure to listen to other sources as well (for example, I think she is wrong about whole grains). But I liked the point that you cannot be a vegetarian or a vegan without having to kill animals in some way or another. I would rephrase this as follows: vegetarianism and veganism are part of modernity (implying they are wrong), in the sense that they attempt to isolate some nutrients and thereby detach you from nature. If you live life entangled in nature you are allowed to eat animals because your poop and your carcass are also returned to nature and eaten by other living creatures, so you are part of this natural cycle. To understand more about this concept, see the YouTube series called "metastatic modernity".