I had 2 bottles of chateau angelus shipped to me. Unfortunately in the shipping it got too hot and had seepage. Are these wines done for?
It is 97F outside and the box was pretty hot once I got it from the UPS driver.
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18 Comments
DirtierGibson
Who ships this time of year in these conditions?
WineOptics
I see seepage. I’d say they’re cooked.
grapemike
Sorry. Yes, they may be drinkable but never close to what you intended. Surprised that any shipper would leave alcohol without a signature plus doing so in that weather. Any insurance, either bought or included with the shipper?
sounds_like_noise
How’s the cork? They might be cooked, but the cork still in place may indicate that they may have survived. Can you coravin one?
foreverfabfour
This is massively depressing.
What’s done is done, but needless to say I’d never ship this time of year. I’ve only had a few bottles perish in shipping. I’m assuming and hoping the shipment was insured!? But even so, shipping companies rarely payout insurance unless the bottles are completely broken.
Contact the company you purchased from and inquire about a replacement. Depending on who they are and their policy, they may tell you to go fish or might send a replacement in better weather and make you cover the shipping again.
thewhizzle
I would never accept bottles in that condition. Return and ask for refund
SoGoodAtAllTheThings
Dead. Get refund.
express-duck
Last year around this time I bought 1995 Cask 23 & Dunn Howell Mountain and had them shipped to Miami overnight. They both had a very slight bit seepage (a few drops each) and I was bummed for sure.
Anyways, I opened them both a few months down the road and both drank beautifully. Granted they didn’t look nearly as bad as your pics.
Seepage isn’t always a death sentence if there are pressure changes but I think that’s certainly uncommon.
Good luck.
Gay_Creuset
Who’s the retailer who did this so I can avoid them lol
BillyM9876
It doesn’t look pretty but it might not be dead. Seen this many times over my career, half the time it turns out fine. Half the time, it’s cooked.
But seems this bottle got some age…mature wine a little more fragile.
parksoffroad
As a wine shipper, I can say that we have customers that ship wine all summer long regardless of the temperatures. Many times we make them sign a weather waiver for just this sort of reason. We give people the option to hold for weather year-round. There’s a lot of people that either don’t read, don’t care, or quite frankly think that if something happens, they’re going to ask for a refund. We sell wholesale as well and we’ve had people in the business purchasing for resale ship when it’s too hot, have them look like this and then demand a refund as well. One of them even tried to charge back with his credit card and lost badly.
I kind of feel like this is an area where a lot of people could use a little more education as to how the shipping process works.
fddfgs
Yeah I’d be asking for a refund/replacement, that shouldn’t have shipped during a heatwave.
Sometimes things just go wrong (I remember a few years ago we had a 4 week heatwave in Perth so all deliveries there were on hold, we shipped when temperatures went down to 30c and then another 2 week heatwave hit), but it’s still on the company to deliver the wine in an acceptable condition.
fddfgs
Yeah I’d be asking for a refund/replacement, that shouldn’t have shipped during a heatwave.
Sometimes things just go wrong (I remember a few years ago we had a 4 week heatwave in Perth so all deliveries there were on hold, we shipped when temperatures went down to 30c and then another 2 week heatwave hit), but it’s still on the company to deliver the wine in an acceptable condition.
Signal_Fun_6041
Literally cooked. This blows big monkey balls especially with a gem like that. Hopefully insurance will cover the same during shipping. Otherwise it’s gonna taste like stewed fruit.
electro_report
Who’s ordering aged angelus not knowing about proper storage?
ylkim30
You should name who you bought this from. Totally irresponsible to ship these wines in the middle of summer.
FarTooLong
Please tell he who the retailer was.
un_rancais_infiltre
I had a similar experience 2 months ago. A 2018 Château Léoville Poyferré got significantly warm and seeped. Drunk it a month later, it was fine. The nose had gone slightly, but it wasn’t “cooked”.
Only way to know is to open it and drink it. I wouldn’t store it for later, invite a couple of friends over for dinner, have a safety bottle ready just in case, and enjoy it.
18 Comments
Who ships this time of year in these conditions?
I see seepage. I’d say they’re cooked.
Sorry. Yes, they may be drinkable but never close to what you intended. Surprised that any shipper would leave alcohol without a signature plus doing so in that weather. Any insurance, either bought or included with the shipper?
How’s the cork? They might be cooked, but the cork still in place may indicate that they may have survived. Can you coravin one?
This is massively depressing.
What’s done is done, but needless to say I’d never ship this time of year. I’ve only had a few bottles perish in shipping. I’m assuming and hoping the shipment was insured!? But even so, shipping companies rarely payout insurance unless the bottles are completely broken.
Contact the company you purchased from and inquire about a replacement. Depending on who they are and their policy, they may tell you to go fish or might send a replacement in better weather and make you cover the shipping again.
I would never accept bottles in that condition. Return and ask for refund
Dead. Get refund.
Last year around this time I bought 1995 Cask 23 & Dunn Howell Mountain and had them shipped to Miami overnight. They both had a very slight bit seepage (a few drops each) and I was bummed for sure.
Anyways, I opened them both a few months down the road and both drank beautifully. Granted they didn’t look nearly as bad as your pics.
Seepage isn’t always a death sentence if there are pressure changes but I think that’s certainly uncommon.
Good luck.
Who’s the retailer who did this so I can avoid them lol
It doesn’t look pretty but it might not be dead. Seen this many times over my career, half the time it turns out fine. Half the time, it’s cooked.
But seems this bottle got some age…mature wine a little more fragile.
As a wine shipper, I can say that we have customers that ship wine all summer long regardless of the temperatures. Many times we make them sign a weather waiver for just this sort of reason. We give people the option to hold for weather year-round. There’s a lot of people that either don’t read, don’t care, or quite frankly think that if something happens, they’re going to ask for a refund. We sell wholesale as well and we’ve had people in the business purchasing for resale ship when it’s too hot, have them look like this and then demand a refund as well. One of them even tried to charge back with his credit card and lost badly.
I kind of feel like this is an area where a lot of people could use a little more education as to how the shipping process works.
Yeah I’d be asking for a refund/replacement, that shouldn’t have shipped during a heatwave.
Sometimes things just go wrong (I remember a few years ago we had a 4 week heatwave in Perth so all deliveries there were on hold, we shipped when temperatures went down to 30c and then another 2 week heatwave hit), but it’s still on the company to deliver the wine in an acceptable condition.
Yeah I’d be asking for a refund/replacement, that shouldn’t have shipped during a heatwave.
Sometimes things just go wrong (I remember a few years ago we had a 4 week heatwave in Perth so all deliveries there were on hold, we shipped when temperatures went down to 30c and then another 2 week heatwave hit), but it’s still on the company to deliver the wine in an acceptable condition.
Literally cooked. This blows big monkey balls especially with a gem like that. Hopefully insurance will cover the same during shipping. Otherwise it’s gonna taste like stewed fruit.
Who’s ordering aged angelus not knowing about proper storage?
You should name who you bought this from. Totally irresponsible to ship these wines in the middle of summer.
Please tell he who the retailer was.
I had a similar experience 2 months ago. A 2018 Château Léoville Poyferré got significantly warm and seeped. Drunk it a month later, it was fine. The nose had gone slightly, but it wasn’t “cooked”.
Only way to know is to open it and drink it. I wouldn’t store it for later, invite a couple of friends over for dinner, have a safety bottle ready just in case, and enjoy it.