I just want to make a point about this sub and what I consider a problem with the advice on here.
I consider myself an evidence based person. My understanding is that this is quite rare. I think it's like 10 to maybe 20 % of the population who are like this.
So based on evidence my diet is basically WFPD with some fish and eggs.
Why does this sub actively discourage a diet like this with no evidence to back up their thoughts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPXWCIFDkgM
If you look at this video it shows how certain plant based diets may be unhealthy.
If anyone thinks it's just this video they are wrong. It's the predominant evidence. Nutritional recommendations are not as simplistic as plant foods good and all other foods bad.
My opinion is that the sub should change their perspective to be more evidence based.
by aaronturing
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why? because this is the plant based sub
I don’t see my diet as unhealthy, and I’m similar to you in that I have salmon a couple days a month.
So Mr. Evidence i hope you know about mercury in fish and elevated levels of TMAO and ldl cholesterol from eating eggs. Not to forget increase in all cause mortality.
This post is kind of the equivalent of going over to the CRON people (calorie restricted optimal nutrition) and telling them they ought to eat more.
I respect people’s choices. I also understand any diet could be unhealthy. Especially if you don’t make it balanced and rounded. For example if you only ate Broccoli you wouldn’t get enough nutrients to be healthy and have categories you would be missing.
Though this being a plant based sub reddit you can’t expect people to advocate for foods outside the plant based criteria. This would be like going to a carnivore sub and asking why they never post vegan recipes.
If you choose to make other choices with your diet, that is completely up to you. You are an adult and can do that. Very few will judge you for that, and those that do shouldn’t matter to you.
I also love research papers. I am a huge fan of Dr. Gregor as he is very similar in this aspect (check out his books). Can you please point me to your research papers on healthy eggs that aren’t sponsored by egg lobbyists? I have spent a long time looking for a factual research study showing eggs to be healthy,. All I get are research studies that show they can be healthy if eaten with a healthy diet when compared to very unhealthy diets, or ones by the egg council/institute that won’t release all data (only the data they want to show the narrative they want).
I don’t follow this diet, but I enjoy the discussion and it helps me think about how I can include more plant-based ingredients in my meals.
There’s a hundred reasons why a single, rigid diet is not the best for every single person on the planet. On top of physiology, each person has their own values, morals and beliefs that shape how they choose food ingredients to consume.
But where does the sub claim it is about health? It’s simply a space of those who may eat predominantly plant based. If you’re looking for health, try the whole food plant based subs, WFPB.
Sure it can be unhealthy… if you do it wrong. But unless you’re consistently ensuring you’re getting enough variety in your diet, you’re not perfect either. Plus my food doesn’t have mercury in it…
Edit:
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-024-03513-w
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31895244/
There is evidence to support our claims btw.
From my own experience whichever diet keeps away having daily constipation, bad breath and body odor, diarrhea, osteoporosis, lack of willpower and energy is good for health. I have figured out my diet after 25 years of struggle. I just switched out food groups one by one.
There is evidence for and against every diet on the internet. It all comes down to what you believe and what gives you the results you’re looking for.
Ok so follow the pescatarian sub and not this one
Meanwhile read dr greger’s book How Not to Die, it covers why he does not recommend fish or eggs
And yet physician like Dr. Greger and Dr. Esselstyn beg to differ. You’re trusting some young man? I’ve been a WFPB for seven years, at forty-one, I feel like I’m twenty-three. I’ve never been constipated. I eat plenty of foods with high fibre foods. Eat pots of fruit and vegetables. I even supplement B-12 or so consume nutritional Yeast.
Our intestines aren’t short enough to eat meat like most people do. just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Our stomach acid is not nearly as acidic like the carnivores stomachs acid are.
It makes sense people like Dr. Greger thinks or believes we’re frugivores. Considering human milk is likely the ONLY milk that’s SWEET. And until we die, our brains need sugar. Primarily from FRUIT. Any lack of or no sugar means death.
Since I became a Vegan, I’ve done my way of thinking. Comparing the human body to dogs, cats, lions, bears, tigers, alligators, etc, and knowing how different we are physically and mentally. Especially our insides. We are, as many think or believer, and I agree 100%, we are gatherers. We plant. We help food grow. We harvest.
Any diet can be unhealthy. High consumption of processed foods and excessive consumption of certain fruits and/or veggies is unhealthy. It’s all about eating balance in rotation. No animal consumption in my diet. That’s the whole point of plant based dieting, at least for me.