Recipe : https://youtu.be/vqPLa8fgYZ0?si=Uajp0L-V7da455Wl

by No_Opportunity_1502

22 Comments

  1. spageddy_lee

    The amount of strength you created couldnt hold up to the amount of fermentation

  2. t-train132

    Did you do the overnight version? This one is more likely to hold shape.

  3. Worldly-Snow-9421

    sometimes even tho it looks flat, the oven spring you get in a dutch oven makes up for it

  4. VincentVan_Dough

    The hydration is 67.3% so that is indeed beginner friendly. A bit hard to tell what the issue is without the crumb but guessing it’s related to the lack of gluten development. It could be that you’re using a lower protein flour, or your stretch and fold technique, or shaping technique or it’s overfermented/proofed, or a combination of any of these.

  5. Rare-Lengthiness-297

    I’ve just decided to start using a KitchenAid mixer instead of lamination and folding and all that junk. Keep it simple. I’m getting way better loaves now. It’s just bread and you can just knead if you want

  6. What type of climate are you in? I’m in a humid, mostly hot climate and overproofing is super easy for me to do.

  7. alexithunders

    You need to provide more detail for a meaningful response but it’s either overpriced or an acidic starter

  8. Mysterious_Error9619

    Yeah. I’ve found that the Bannetons don’t really shape anything based on the recipes.
    If you want a shape, your baking pan has to be that shape.

  9. Curious-Emu7603

    I’m very much a beginner so take this with a pinch of salt…but same thing kept happening to me until I learned to shape properly pre-bannetone.

  10. Duke-of-Glenmont

    This is how all of mine look. I just said “Hell with it” and put it in the pan with the shape I want. The spring always seems to bring it up fine

  11. Strain_Double

    Try overnight proofing in fridge so that it gets a better shape when you take out of the fridge. Its also a lot easier to handle the dough with this technique.

  12. PinkGooseOnTheLoose

    Try building your gluten strength

  13. At that hydration, if you’re turning into a puddle and you’re building dough tension, then it’s almost certainly your shape. A couple things to consider

    1. The pre-shape and its associated technique is very important. You have to build the exact right amount of tension then let it rest for 30 minutes.

    2. The shape is very important and building the tension to the absolute maximum. It should feel like a balloon on the outside. It’s stretched so taught. They always say gentle but they mean just don’t tear it. You should be as aggressive as you can right up to the very limit, which means you might need to tear a few to find out where it is. It’ll still taste great. I’m eating an absolute frisbee right now and I love it.

    3. Your flour matters. A lot of those artisanal recipes are using super high grade flour like that cairmills stuff. It’s especially important in higher hydrations. It shouldn’t make much of a difference in yours. You should make sure you’re using the high quality bread flour though.

  14. MisSigsFan

    From the looks of the surface I’d say your shaping might not be creating enough tension.

  15. forogtten_taco

    Could be the picture, but looks like a really big loaf. Maybe 2 loads would work better for the size?

  16. DoraForscher

    It can be a sign of over fermentation or over-proofing

  17. jennymacbreadsack

    Might be over proofed also work on tightening up you shaping methods

  18. SadCauliflower2947

    could be overfermented. mine used to do that

  19. Zealousideal-Math50

    So after I mix my shaggy dough I spend 5 minutes kneading it by hand before my stretch and folds.

    My loaves have been insane, great oven spring and they hold their shape well before they are baked.

  20. OkAssociation3743

    Hmm I saw the video and felt the issue was using unfed discard? Atleast in the video it looked like the starter was unfed.

    A well fed healthy starter is truly a game changer. There was a point where my starter didn’t rise enough, and I used it anyway. During that time, for about a month of so, all my breads flapped down when I took out of the banneton, didn’t rise well in the oven, didn’t have oven spring and tasted too sour.